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Sri Krishna’s word to Maa Ganga

Superimpose human and divine ages to show shift of start end points of divine ages, with offset of 9 deg and with Shukla and Krishna Paksha to discuss Sri Krishna's word to Maa Ganga

This topic shall discuss and derive the exact year of “end of degeneration (End of Kaliyuga)” basis what was told by Sri Bhagwan Krishna to Mother Ganga (i.e. Deity of river Ganges) … And basis this, we shall also know the exact year of “Start of Satyuga (Start of golden age)” within this world, which for the present stage of cycle of time (Kaalchakra) can only be as a “start of human golden age (i.e. start of Manav Satyuga)” …

But since the incoming human golden age would be running inside those much-much longer time span of the presently underway “divine degenerate age (Deva Kaliyuga)” so this discussed “start of human golden age” would only be as a “start of Age of Sages (or Start of Guru Yuga)” within this world … And due to this reason, this topic also relates to the time of “inauguration of Guru Yuga (inauguration of Age of Sages)” within this world …

This topic continues from the previous one of “Advent of Christ principle” …

 

127-AA-1 … Sri Krishna’s word to Maa Ganga … Start of golden age …

In Brahma-Vaivarta Purana, Sri Bhagwan Krishna had told Maa Ganga (Deity of River Ganges) as follows …

Within the divine degenerate age (Deva Kaliyuga) upon earth, the initial 5,000 years of Kaliyuga would be sinful and sinners will deposit their sins in you (River Ganges) by bathing in your waters …

Thereafter, by the sight and touch of those who worship me (i.e. Sri Krishna) by my Mantra, all those sins will be burnt to ashes … This stage of sins “burning to ashes” also denotes the stage of pollution of the River Ganges, which as of now is already seen as a reality …

Sri Krishna further says to Maa Ganga, that, there shall be chanting of the name of Hari (i.e. Sri Krishna) and reading of Purana (i.e. Bhagwat Purana) and then the whole planet shall become like a blissful pilgrimage by the presence of devotees (or Sri Krishna), even though it had been sinful earlier …

And Sri Krishna goes even further to say, for a further 10,000 years of Kaliyuga such devotees of his will fill the whole planet and after departure of these devotees, there would remain only one Varna (i.e. all will be outcast or devoid of Varna Parampara and there would be an absence of Vedic Sampradaya) …

And then after above time, because of absence of these devotees (of Sri Krishna) the earth would again be captured by degeneration (Kaliyuga) …

Thus, basis above, Sri Bhagwan Krishna had predicted that Kaliyuga (degenerate age) would last for around 5,000 years and then a “Mini Satyuga (or mini golden age)” would come and this mini golden age would also be lasting for 10,000 years only …

 

Proceeding further …

 

Human age cycle shown on Precessional circle with dates and also with offset of 9 degrees arc precession
Human age cycle shown on Precessional circle with dates and also with offset of 9 degrees arc precession

 

It is clear from above figure that this mini human golden age shall be of a time span of “about” 10,000 years just as it is told in above statement of Sri Krishna …

Kaliyuga means age of darkness, ignorance, violence (including sexual violence), individualism, greed, hypocrisy and all other lower aspects which eventually are leading to a cyclic manifestation of one or another type of chaos in all ways and walks of life of humanity (i.e. all societies of humanity) …

And as the “degenerate age (Kaliyuga)” progresses, this chaos keeps increasing, but it only peaks prior to end of Kaliyuga …

Basis discussions of this topic, it would also be clear, that, we as of now, are already are living in those times which are leading to an end of Kaliyuga within this part of the universe …

 

Proceeding further …

Since the mini golden age is only of 10,000 years, so that mini golden age which is told within this prophecy is not a “divine golden age (Deva Satyuga)” which has a time span of 1.728 million years (as per middle time units of precession) …

When we study the cycles of human ages through the root knowledge of the science of Kaalchakra, then it is also pretty clear, that, what Sri Krishna had told Maa Ganga was about a human golden age (of about 10,000 years) and not a Vedic divine golden age (which has a time span of of 1.728 million years, as per middle time units or precession of equinoxes) …

And since as of now, Vedic folks “only” relate to divine ages (which in Sanskrit language can also be called as a Deva Yuga and the same is also termed as a Mahayuga) and further since this prophecy “only and only” relates to human ages (Manav Yuga), so this is also one of the reasons for Vedic folks to state that this prophecy is wrong …

But the fact still remains that it is absolutely correct when we derive its values through the knowledge of Kaalchakra … And where this correctness only relates to human age cycles (which in Sanskrit language can also be called as a Manav Yuga Chakra) …. This is because of the fact that the currently discussed word of Sri Krishna, does not the the Vedic divine age cycles (which in Sanskrit language can also be called as a Deva Yuga Chakra and the same is also termed as a Mahayuga Chakra) …

 

127-AA-2 … Analyzing Sri Krishna word to Maa Ganga … Start of Satyuga …

Various scholars have given various interpretations of this statement of Sri Krishna to Maa Ganga …

Some say this 10,000 years of mini Satyuga would be lasting from the time of “advent of Sri Gauranga (i.e. advent of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu on/around 1486 AD) and other say these 10,000 years are for total age of Kaliyuga (i.e. starting from 3102 BC, +/- 1 to 2.7 years) and yet other say something else …

And some other Vedic scholars even say that, this statement is false as it is not in line with time spans of 432,000 years of “Deva Kaliyuga (divine degenerate age)” as is told within the Vedic lore’s …

Therefore, in this part of the topic we shall be analyzing this fact, but basis that part of the knowledge of Kaalchakra, which relates to human ages and not to divine ages (which in Sanskrit lore, is also called as a Chatur Yuga) …

 

Proceeding further …

If we study above shown figure of human ages that has been superimposed by divine age cycle and then if we relate it to the statement of Sri Krishna to Devi Ganga (Goddess of Ganges), then the following comes to fore …

  • After “about” 5000 years from the beginning of Kaliyuga Samvat (calendar of degenerate age or calendar of cycle of degeneration), there would be a mini golden age, which would be of a time span of about 10 millenniums …
  • We also see in above figure that this golden age would be lasting for “about” 10,000 years just as it was told in above statement of Sri Krishna to “Maa Ganga (i.e. deity of river Ganges)” …
  • And when we consider the figure of this topic, then it is also pretty clear that the “human golden age (or human age of truth or Manav Satyuga)” is found to be commencing around 2082 AD …

But we need to derive the “closest” time of start of human golden age (mini golden age or Manav Satyuga) so as to correctly ascertain whether this statement which was told by Sri Bhagwan Krishna, is actually correct or not

Unless something can be proved through mathematics upon which the entirety of Maker’s Makings are based, it can never be told as true … This is because the divinity of mathematics of creator (as discussed in earlier topic of Mathematics of universe) is the base upon which the process of origination, sustenance and dissolution of Maker’s Makings, has been resting since eternity …

 

127-BB … Regarding calculation for Sri Krishna’s word … Start of Age of Sages … Start of Guru Yuga …

Sri Krishna was the last Poorna Avatar of Sri Bhagwan Vishnu … Thus the discussed statement is the word of a Poorna Avatar … Poorna Avatar only relates to divine time i.e. divine ages (i.e. Deva Yuga Chakra or Chatur Yuga Chakra) …

But within the Precessional circle (i.e. the human age cycle), manifestation of divine time is related to the cardinal points (Like Nadir point and other cardinal points) and not of the offset state of these cardinal points (like Offset-Nadir point and other offset-cardinal points) …

But at the same time, these words of Krishna Avatar also relate to human age cycles (as he has stated about a mini human golden age of 10,000 years, which as such can only be a human golden age and not a divine golden age) …

And since human ages are related to Offset-cardinal point (like Offset-Nadir point, etc.) so the Offset-cardinal point shall have to be used as a base here …

And basis above figure, is is also pretty clear that the applicable Offset-Cardinal point for the time span after “start of divine degenerate age (in 3102 BC)” is of “Offset-Nadir point (of 786 AD)”, so here we shall have to use “Offset-Nadir point (of 786 AD)” as a base …

And even when  above paragraph is true, since the Avatar can only relate to divine values (which itself are of Precession Cardinal points), so in this calculation, we shall have to use cardinal time units and values of the applicable closest Offset-Cardinal point itself …

Thus basis above, following is what needs to be done to derive the value of this discussion …

  • We shall have to utilize Offset-Nadir point (of 786 AD) as a base …
  • And for the Offset-Nadir point (of 786 AD), we shall have to utilize value of nadir point itself …
  • Thus in this calculation, at the Offset-Nadir of 786 AD, we shall have Nadir values of 1434 AD … And same shall be for every other cardinal and Offset-Cardinal point of precession if this word of Sri Krishna is used to derive those values …
  • This is how the words of a Poorna Avatar (who only relates to divine aspects and thus to cardinal points of precession) would become applicable to what he had told about human age cycles or human aspects, which only relate to Offset-Cardinal points of precession …

 

Proceeding further …

  • Thus in this calculation, we shall have to use the Offset-Nadir point as a base point of calculation and yet use the values of Nadir point (of 1434 AD) at the Offset-Nadir point (of 786 AD) and that too whilst keeping the human age cycles in their same positions as shown in above figure …
  • This aspect of relation of Offset-Nadir point (and every other Offset-Cardinal point) to human values and Nadir cardinal point to divine values has already been discussed in section 37-EE of an earlier topic of “Offset of human ages” …

All this is because a Poorna Avatar primarily relates to divine age cycles, which itself are related to the main cardinal points of the Precessional circle (human age cycles) …

But even when above is true, yet because the Avatar has talked about a human golden age cycle of 10,000 years (i.e. he has talked about Manav Satyuga or Guru Yuga) and since human ages only relate to Offset-Cardinal points of the Precessional circle (i.e. human ages), so in this calculation the Nadir values shall have to be used at Offset-Nadir point and yet the Offset-Nadir point would remain as the base point of this calculation …

 

Concluding above …

Thus basis above, since the word is of a Poorna-Avatar who never relates to human age and human values and yet the age which is told about is naught but a human age cycle, so in this calculation, following would need to be done …

  • Point of Offset-Nadir would have to be used as a base point …
  • Time unit of Nadir point would have to be used as the base time unit …
  • Due to above reason, we shall be using Offset-Nadir point with Nadir time units applicable to it …
  • And yet the human ages would not be re-shifted by 9 degrees precession arc and thus these human ages shall be at the same positions as shown in above figure …

So basis above,

  • Avatars of Sri Vishnu have no limitation about taking birth in a human form … This is because an Avatar of Sri Vishnu can also be within the animal and other realms … These Avatars of Sri Vishnu can also be of macrocosmic states and they can also be of cosmic allegories in addition to being in subtle realms, as Sri Vishnu has no limitations as far as taking an Avatar is concerned …
  • When we have to mathematically derive the prophecies (or statements) of an Avatar (i.e. the highest category of divinity ever possible to be present in a physical realms i.e. human or other physical realms) then the time units which relate to divine values (i.e. units of cardinal points) would have to be used …

And since as of now, the closest cardinal point of precession is the Nadir point, so we shall have to use Nadir time units in this calculation …

  • But even when above is true, since the golden age which is talked about is a mini golden age (of 10,000 years) so it can never be the divine golden age which has a time span of 1.728 million human solar years (as per middle time units) … And due to this reason, the base point which we shall have to use in this calculation would have to be the Offset-Nadir point (of 786 AD) and not the Nadir point (of 1434 AD) …

 

And due to above reason,

  • In this calculation, the base point of planetary axial precession shall be of Offset-Nadir …
  • The base time units of calculation, shall be of Nadir time units i.e. the time units of the closest cardinal point of precession of equinoxes
  • Thus in this calculation, we would have to use the Offset-Cardinal point (to which the statement of that Avatar relates) with time units of the Cardinal points of precession (to which an Avatar eventually relates) …
  • Thus in this calculation, we would need to transfer values of Cardinal point of precession to the Offset-cardinal points, so as to find a harmony between the two aspects as discussed above …

 

So finally for this calculation, we arrive at the below stated fact …

To get a unity of divine units (of words of Sri Krishna) to human values (as are related to the mini golden age which was told to Maa Ganga), within this calculation, the Nadir time units shall be applicable to Offset-Nadir point

 

Note: I have intentionally chosen this calculation to describe the method of it and the same fact is to be utilized when calculating any prediction of any Avatar of Sri Vishnu … And the same is also applicable to all celestial values, but this is with a difference, that within celestial values, these two points are taken separately and not in their unioned state as have been taken in this calculation …

Note: But this method can also be used for calculating times and conditions of  predictions of Sages which have also been told in many religions lore’s … But this method cannot be used for all predictions of all sages of all religious lore’s … This is because the words of sages (saints, prophets, son of god etc.) may not necessarily be related to divine units

Note: Unless the consciousness (Chitta) of these sages is already resting within the divine realms (even when they may be seen to be present within the physical earthly realms), this method can never be used … Most of the sages only relate to human values and thus they mostly relate to the Offset-cardinal points and not to the precession cardinal points

 

127-CC … Prophecies given in Vedic lore’s and role of Vyasa Muni …

The prophecies given in Vedic Purana include the following aspects …

  • What sages subtly-saw of the future times …
  • What were calculated basis the science of Kaalchakra
  • How it was during the same stages of time, which also were during the previous (or earlier) stages of similar age cycles of past time spans …
  • And since these three aspects are totally mixed up within Vedic lore, so to find out if it’s a prophecy of future or if it’s an analysis of a calculated value or if it was during the previous similar stage of progress of earlier age cycles when similar stages of progress of time were present, is very difficult if the aspirant is not related to Vedic Parampara and thus the aspirant also does not relate to the Vedic Sampradaya

There are many instances in Vedic Purana’s where even when a statement may seem like a prophecy, yet it actually is describing the state of something which was during a similar stage of time which was arrived within a previous cycle of time (or age cycle) …

This is because, “almost” similar conditions exist in all cycles of time and thus each future cycle of time always reaches similar conditions (Here I did not say exactly same conditions, so please do not misinterpret) to those times which were during previous cycles of time …

Thus, if one is not careful in understanding such parts of Vedic scriptures, then even when the scripture (Purana) is describing the past, yet it may seem to be like a prophecy of future … Or vice versa …

Since almost similar conditions are there in each divine age cycle, so the Vedic sages kept passing the knowledge of earlier cycles … This was because they knew that almost similar situations would also be there during similar stages of progress of future age cycles …

And it is due to above fact that these Vedic Purana’s contain information of many earlier divine ages and their eternal cycles … And this is why Vedic sages had named them as Puraan (or Purana) as this word also means “timelessly ancient” …

In fact, the Major Purana’s (18 Main Purana’s) were also existent during my much much earlier incarnations and were also there during my further transmigrated incarnation … Transmigrated incarnation means an incarnation that is arrived by adopting the path of transmigration of soul, which in Sanskrit language is called as Parkaya Pravesh and which in English is also loosely termed as Virgin Birth

So due to this reason, contrary to what modern scholars have stated that these Vedic Purana’s were originated only a few millenniums ago, these scriptures are extremely ancient (and thus they have been named as Puraan i.e. timelessly ancient) … Vedic knowledge is passed by words of a Guru and not by writing of that text and this knowledge has kept getting passed from master to disciple across a very-very long (well, almost unimaginable) time span …

 

Proceeding further …

As also, these Vedic scriptures are always written prior to stage of advent of a divine degenerate age (Deva Kaliyuga) … And for this job of writing, a highly evolved being taken over the role of being a Veda Vyasa of that time cycle …

There have been countless sages who came to this world to act as a “Veda Vyasa of their times spans of arrival” and these advents always happen prior to coming by of a divine degenerate age (Deva Kaliyuga) because ability of humanity to retain knowledge in an immaculate (uncorrupted form) keeps reducing as the Kaliyuga progresses …

Thus prior to the coming of present divine degenerate age cycle, the Vyasa Deva (Brahmarishi Krishna Dvaipayana or Badarayana Muni) of the current divine age cycle (i.e. Chatur Yuga or Mahayuga or Deva Yuga) had also come by to write these scriptures and thus ensure that they remain available to humanity during this Kaliyuga …

 

127-DD … Calculating the time of end of Kaliyuga and start of Guru Yuga …

Sri Bhagwan Krishna had left this planet in 3102 BC, 17/18th February …

Once Sri Krishna left this planet, then was the stage where degenerate aspects of the divine degenerate age (Deva Kaliyuga) i.e. Kali Rakshas (of Demon Kali) had entered this world …

After this stage was the start of Sandhikaal which was in between the divine age of Dwapara and divine age of Kaliyuga and which ran inside the human age cycles (or precession cycles) itself …

This running of Sandhikaal within human age cycles was discussed in some previous topics like “Sandhikaal of divine and human ages” and was also discussed in another topic of “Application of Sandhikaal” in addition to the discussions of another topic of “Prior, during and after Sandhikaal” and also another earlier topic which had the header of “Start, progress and end of Sandhikaal” and the same concept was also discussed in another earlier topic of “Stages of Sandhikaal and Nadir phase” …

 

Deriving “base year” for calculating 5,000 years of Sri Krishna’s statement to Maa Ganga …

This statement could have been told to River Ganga during a time range that was either “just prior or just after” Mahabharata war … But the proof of this fact is not clearly visible in the subject scripture …

And yet it is of a time which is very-very close to Mahabharata war which had ended around 3130 BC (as per my Kaalchakra calculations) and this end was the one which led to start of Kaliyuga Samvat (in 3130 BC itself) as was discussed in an earlier topic of “Guru Yuga Samvat and Kaliyuga Samvat” …

 

Proceeding further …

We had discussed in earlier topic that Sri Krishna had left this world in 3102 BC (+/- 1 to 2.7 years) …

We had also discussed earlier that the war had ended (27 + 1) years prior departure of Sri Krishna in 3102 BC (+/- 1 to 2.7 years) … This value of 28 years (27 + 1 year) was also discussed in an earlier topic of “offset of Sri Krishna’s departure) … Thus basis this fact, the Mahabharata war had ended around 3130 BC (+/- 1 to 2.7 years) …

Moreover, this year (i.e. 3130 BC) also was the real starting time of “calendar of degenerate age (Kaliyuga Samvat)” …

Above is even when the effects of Kaliyuga could only enter this world after Sri Krishna’s departure in 3102 BC (+/- 1 to 2.7 years) because degenerate effects (of Kaliyuga) can never begin entering a world whilst a Poorna Avatar of Sri Vishnu is still present upon the world … This aspect was also discussed in an earlier topic …

Since this statement of Sri Krishna is related to the “calendar of degenerate age (i.e. Kaliyuga Samvat) so we shall have to use 3130 BC (+/- 1 to 2.7 years) as the base year …

 

Calculating necessary values for 3102 BC …

This calculation shall be as per the time units of the precession cycle which were applicable to 3102 BC …

Basis calculations that relate to arcs of axial precession of Earth’s axis, following is is what comes to light …

  • 3102 BC is in middle of human age of duality (i.e. Manav Dwaparyuga) …
  • And 3102 BC is also exactly in the middle of Offset-Nadir point (of 786 AD) and Offset-Middle point (of 5694 BC) of precession of equinoxes

Therefore, we shall have to consider both the Offset-Nadir point and Offset-Middle point of precession to derive the unitary value of time for 3102 BC …

Now we shall calculate the unitary value of time for 3102 BC basis time units of Nadir cardinal point and basis Offset-Nadir point of precession … This calculation is just as we had discussed in section 127-BB-1, 127-BB-2 and 127-BB-3 above …

 

Proceeding further …

Following was derived in an earlier topic of “Yearly change of precession” …

  • Yearly rate of change of precession at Nadir point of precession (of 1434 AD) was calculated as 50 arc seconds per year … But since we are calculating the time of those words of an Avatar which relate to human age cycle, so this value shall have to be taken for the Offset-Nadir point (of 786 AD)e. this value of Nadir point (50 arc seconds per year) shall have to be shifted to Offset-Nadir point …
  • Yearly rate of change of precession at Middle point of precession (of 5046 BC) was calculated as 54 arc seconds per year … But since we are calculating those words of an Avatar which relate to human age cycles, so this value shall have to be taken at Offset-Middle point (of 5694 BC)
  • Above is also in line with earlier discussions of section 127-BB-3 of this topic …

 

And following was derived in an earlier topic of “Unitary value of time” …

  • Unitary value of time at Nadir point of precession (of 1434 AD) was calculated as 72 years per degree change of precession … But since we are calculating words of an Avatar which relate to human age cycles (Manav Yuga Chakra), so this value shall have to be taken at Offset-Nadir point (of 786 AD)
  • And unitary value of time at Middle point of precession (of 5046 BC) was calculated as 66.6666667 years per degree change of precession … But since we are calculating words of an Avatar which relate to human age cycles, so this value shall have to be taken at Offset-Middle point (of 5694 BC)
  • And the currently applicable “unitary value of time” was calculated as 71.6 years per degree change of precession … This value shall remain the same as it relates to our present times …
  • Above is also in line with earlier discussions within this topic (section 127-BB-3 above)…

 

Basis above discussions and from times (years) as shown in above figure which also relates to the currently applicable Nadir time units of precession, following is pretty clear …

  • Between Offset-Nadir point and Offset-Middle point of precession (or Agragaman), there is a precession arc of 90 degrees and the difference of yearly change of precession within this 90 degrees arc, is of 4 arc seconds per year …
  • The arc from 3102 BC till Offset-Nadir point (of 786 AD), is of 54 degrees …
  • And the arc from Offset-Middle point (of 5694 BC) till 3102 BC is of 36 degrees …
  • Thus basis above, for 18 degrees arc precession, the yearly change of precession would be as follows …

(4/90) x 18 = 0.8 arc seconds per year

  • And for 54 degrees arc precession (which itself is the arc from Offset-Nadir point of 786 AD till the time of departure of Sri Krishna in 3102 BC), the yearly change of precession would be as follows …

0.8 x 3 = 2.4 arc seconds per year

  • Thus basis above, the yearly change of precession for 3102 BC basis yearly change of Nadir point (i.e. 50 arc seconds per year) when used for yearly change at Offset-Nadir point (as per reasons stated earlier on in this topic) would be as follows …

50 + 2.4 = 52.4 arc seconds per year

Thus, for our discussed statement of Sri Krishna to Maa Ganga, the “yearly change of precession” in arc seconds and from the Offset-Nadir point (of 786 AD) would be as 52.4 arc seconds per year

 

With above as a base, we proceed forward …

  • The value of one full cycle of precession in arc seconds, is as follows …

360 (degrees) x 60 (minutes) x 60 (seconds) = 1,296,000 arc seconds

  • So if the “yearly rate of change of precession” is of 52.4 arc seconds per year (as was in 3102 BC and basis unitary value of of Nadir transferred to Offset-Nadir point as was discussed earlier on in this topic), then the time taken to traverse the full precession circle would be as follows …

1,296,000 / 52.4 = 24,732.8244 human solar years

  • Thus at this precession yearly rate of change of precession of 52.4 arc seconds per year, the time that would be taken to traverse one degree precession, would also be as follows …

24,732.8244 / 360 = 68.70229 years (for each degree precession or Ahaata) …

Above is the unitary value of time (i.e. celestial time) that is applicable for our present calculation …

 

Proceeding further …

Thus basis above, we get the following conclusion …

  • It was at 68.70229 years per degree change of precession, that Sri Krishna had told Maa Ganga (Goddess of river Ganges) about the above statement of there being a mini golden age (i.e. human golden age) of “about” 10,000 years and this would be after completion of 5000 years of the presently running “Deva Kaliyuga (i.e. divine degenerate age cycles)” …
  • This mini-golden age is “human golden age (or human age of truth or Manav Satyuga of 10000 years)” as is shown in above figure and thus, it definitely is not related to the Vedic concept of divine golden age of Deva Satyuga (which has a time span of 1.728 million human solar years, as per middle time units of precession) …
  • And because the “incoming human golden age (Manav Satyuga)” is going to proceed within the longer time span of the “divine degenerate age (Deva Kaliyuga)” so it would only be as an “Age of Sages (Guru Yuga)” …
  • Age of sages (or Guru Yuga) is that age human cycle when many highly evolved sages descend by leaving their subtle realms and then enter into the physical realms (like those of this physical world system) so as to take their respective roles for installation and ensuring a continued progress of the “Age of Sages” … These sages have already been discussed in an earlier topic of “Sages from Sadashiva” and we had also named them as “Sages of Guru Yuga” …
  • Thus, these sages keep entering into the physical realms to ensure an initial installation of a subtle yet strong foundation of the Guru Yuga and then at cyclic intervals, further sages descend to this world so as to ensure that the degenerate ways of life do not start taking over the world within that incoming “Age of Sages (Guru Yuga or human age of truth)” and thus these further sages also end up maintaining the Guru Yuga …
  • We had named the sage who installs a subtle yet strong foundation of the Guru Yuga as the Sage from Maheshwara (who in other topics of this text, is also addressed as the Sage from Tatpurusha) … This sage was also told to be the one who enters this world after descending from Tatpurusha face of Sadashiva who in Vedic and Yogic lore’s is also addressed as “Ukar (which means as upwardly moving or that which makes the aspirants consciousness evolve upwards”) … And the same “Ukar” can also be called as “Okar” (this name is due to its characteristic “Sound of O”) … And in other earlier topics, we had also discussed that this sage of our discussion (i.e. the Sage of Tatpurusha) enters this world by adopting the path of transmigration of soul (which in Sanskrit language is also called as the path of Parkaya Pravesh) …
  • The risk of degenerate systems resurfacing again would always be there during the next Guru Yuga and 17 Guru Yuga’s after the next one and this itself is because all these 18 Guru Yuga’s shall be running within the longer time spans of the “divine degenerate age (Deva Kaliyuga)” which itself is the main age cycle of time …
  • Divine ages are the main cycles and “human ages (Manav Yuga)” are only ancillary cycles of time … So if a “human golden age (Guru Yuga or Manav Satyuga or human age of truth)” runs within the longer time spans of a “divine degenerate age (Deva Kaliyuga)”, then the risk of return back of degenerate systems is always there and this is why highly evolved sages keep entering the world at cyclic intervals to ensure that degeneration (of aspects that relate to the divine degenerate age) does not take over the world during the time spans of a Guru Yuga (or human golden age or human age of truth) …
  • As such, since the incoming “human golden age (Manav Satyuga)” which runs within any “divine degenerate age cycle (Deva Kaliyuga)” is “inaugurated and continuously maintained” by these highly evolved sages who keep entering the world at cyclic intervals, so this is the reason for it to also be termed as an “Age of Sages (Guru Yuga)” and not as “human golden age (or Manav Satyuga)” in this text …

 

Proceeding further …

Since we right now are related to the current time units of precession, so now we would calculate the date of commencement of this Satyuga and that too as per the “currently applicable unitary value of time” of 71.6 years per degree of precession (which we have been using all along in this topic) and basis 3102 BC being the start of Kaliyuga …

 

Proceeding further …

Basis above statement of Sri Krishna and calculations, following is clear …

  • For 68.70229 years per degree precession (i.e. unitary value of time of 3102 BC), the time span as stated in above discussed words of Sri Krishna is of 5000 years …
  • So, for current time unit of precession of 71.6 years per degree change of precession, this time span would be as follows …

{5000 x (71.6 / 68.70229)} = 5210.88 years

 

But this value is for 3102 BC, whereas we had discussed earlier on that the applicable time of coming in of Kaliyuga Samvat is of 3130 BC …

So, we would need some further calculations to derive the values of 3130 BC i.e. the actual time of start of Kaliyuga …

 

Calculating necessary values for 3130 BC …

To get the required values for after 5000 years of Kaliyuga as is told in Sri Krishna’s statement to Maa Ganga, the earliest time can only be of 5001st year of Kaliyuga …

Thus, in this calculation, we would need to target for values of the 5001st year of Kaliyuga …

And this was the reason for considering “28 (i.e. 27 + 1) years” in all earlier (and also above) discussions to derive the year of 3130 BC as the start of Kaliyuga calendar

 

Proceeding further …

We had discussed earlier on, that in 1296 years (which denotes 18 degrees arc precession as per Nadir time units) the yearly change of precession is 0.8 arc seconds (or 0.8 arcsecond) …

So, in 27 + 1 years (or 28 years) the yearly rate of change would be as follows …

{(0.8 x 28) / 1296} = 0.01728395 arc seconds per year

 

Proceeding further …

As was calculated above, in 3102 BC unitary value of time was of 68.70229 years per degree precession and the yearly precession rate was 52.4 arc seconds per year

So basis above, we proceed further with this discussion and calculation …

 

3130 BC is before 3102 BC, so in 3130 BC, the yearly change of precession would be as follows …

52.4 + 0.01728395 = 52. 41728395 arc seconds per year

So basis above calculated “yearly change of precession” for 3130 BC the number of “years taken per degree change of precession (i.e. unitary value of time or celestial time)” would be as follows …

{1,296,000 / (52. 41728395 x 360)} = 24,724.6691 / 360 = 68.6796364 years per degree precession

  • And basis above value, the stated time of Sri Krishna to Maa Ganga, when converted to our current time span, shall be as follows …

5000 x (71.6/68.6796364) = 5212.607 years

 

Proceeding further …

Calculating 5212.607 years from 3130 BC, we come to a value of …

3130 BC + 5212.607 years = 2082.607 AD

 

Proceeding further …

However, in above calculated year (or 2082.607 AD) we have used the base time of departure of Sri Bhagwan Krishna from this world as 3102 BC (i.e. 1st January of 3102 BC) whereas Sri Krishna had left on February 17/18th of 3102 BC, so about 1.64 months (or 0.137 years) shall have to be added to get the exact time of application of this statement of Sri Krishna …

Thus, above time span becomes 2082.607 + 0.137 = 2082.74 AD

This is the year of completion of 5,000 years of Kaliyuga i.e. 5001st year of Kaliyuga (as per time units that were applicable at the stage when Sri Krishna’s had told above statement to Maa Ganga) …

Above time of 2082.74 AD is also denoting inauguration or start of Guru Yuga Age of Sages) within this world (basis currently applicable time units of precession) … Thus this is also the stage of commencement of Guru Yuga Samvat

 

127-EE … Duration of incoming Guru Yuga and final return of Vedic deities …

Basis above figure it is also clear that the duration of incoming Guru Yuga (Manav Satyuga) would be of 5184 x 2 = 10,368 human solar years …

Since above figure is drawn for Nadir time units (i.e. closest cardinal point of precession from current times) so above time span of 10,368 human solar years would have to be brought to time units of 3130 BC, i.e. the time span when Sri Krishna had given his world to Maa Ganga …

 

This calculation is as follows …

(10,368 / 72) x 68.6796364 = 9889.867 human solar years

This value is within the time span of “10,000 years” of Sri Krishna’s statement to Maa Ganga …

 

Note: 72 and 71.6 years are directly taken from earlier topic of “Unitary value of time” and 68.6796363 is taken from above calculations …

 

127-FF … Vedic prophecy of end of path of Archa Vigraha …

In simple terms, Archa Vigraha means the “attributed form state (Sagun Sakaar Awastha)” of Vedic deities who also exist in an attributed formless state (which in Sanskrit language can be termed as Sagun Nirakaar Awastha) and whose final state is none other than that of the attributeless infinite Absolute being (who in Vedic lore is also addressed as Nirgun Nirakaar) … Thus Archa Vigraha also means “idols of worship” …

Above is because all Vedic deities (i.e. all Vedic Deva and all of the Vedic Devi) are none other than one or another self expressed, self manifested and self present state of the same attributeless infinite Supreme being, who in Vedic lore is also addressed as Brahman, in addition to being reverently addressed as Nirgun Nirakaar Brahm or simply as Brahm) … This discussion is applicable to all Vedic deities …

 

Proceeding further …

This part of topic is to discuss that stage of time, when the Guru Yuga completes half of its time i.e. when the Dakshinayan Marg (or ascending cycle) of incoming Guru Yuga ends around 7,266 AD (+/- 1 to 2.7 years) and 108 years prior to this time, when the Sage from Sadyojata comes to this world …

As was discussed in an earlier topic of “Sages from Sadashiva”, that, after arrival of (or better in we say, advent of0 the Sage from Sadyojata in this world, on/around 7,158 AD (+/- 1 to 2.7 years), there would be a stage of laying down those systems which would lead to end of Idol worship of any deity …

Thus, Archa Vigraha of all Vedic deities (and also of all other deities) would no longer be applicable in this world after the “Sage from Sadyojata” has already laid down his systems in this world and prior to and on/around 7,266 AD (+/- 1 to 2.7 years) …

The same fact is also told in Vedic lore, that after completion of 10,000 years of Kaliyuga, “all deities would leave this world and return back to their primary divine plane (i.e. return to Vaikunth)” … Vaikunth as is stated here, is the same as Vamadeva face of Sadashiva

Thus, during the time span of the incoming Guru Yuga and when the Guru Yuga would reach closer to its middle stage, Idol worship would be ending in this world and all deities would return back to their primary divine plane (Vaikuntha) or the heaven of Sri Vishnu … Vaikuntha as is stated here, is the same as Vamadeva face of Shiva

Thus irrespective of those who oppose idol worship and/or abuse the followers of ancient systems of Archa Vigraha, until the Sage of Sadyojata arrived to this world on/around 7,158 AD (+/- 1 to 2.7 years), nobody can complete remove this system from this world …

And above is irrespective of whatever nonsense is stated by anyone or in any scripture which has originated within the currently underway divine degenerate age (Deva Kaliyuga) …

It’s about time the human inhabitants of this world know it loud and clear that the coming times of incoming age of sages are also rooted in the same same Vedic Archa Vigraha only …

And due to this reason, the traditional idols of Vedic deities and Vedic temples shall be seen to be getting traditionally installed and worshiped across this planet during the coming times …

 

127-GG … Symbol of Auspiciousness or Shiva i.e. Shivalingam, always remains …

After on/around 7,266 AD (+/- 1 to 2.7 years) even when the system of Archa Vigraha (Vedic system of idol worship of deities) shall stop, yet the Shiva Lingam shall remain …

Thus, humanity should know it loud and clear, that even within absence of Vedic deities and their Archa Vigraha (consecrated idols) in certain cycles of time, Shivalingam always remains, just as it has remained since eternity of time spans that have already been passed till now, by the Maker’s Makings

And due to above stated fact, one symbol (Symbol means “Lingam” or Ling or Linga) of the supreme being (or the absolute being, who in Sanskrit language is also called as Parambrahma in addition to being addressed as Paramshiva, etc.) always remains … And this was why even when all “idols of deities (i.e. Archa Vigraha)” were removed from Mecca, Prophet Muhammad did not remove the Shivalingam of Makkeshwar Mahadeva

In fact Prophet Muhammad told his adherents to revere that Shivalingam of Makkeshwar Mahadeva … This probably was because he knew that a Lingam always remains and removing that Lingam means destruction of divinity in that land from where it has been removed …

And also know it loud and clear, if what was done at Mecca during the time of Prophet Muhammad is done at any of the places where Jyotirlingam’s are placed (in India), then the entire world would get into a divine, natural and manmade chaos

Since Shivalingam by itself is none other than being a Symbol of Auspicious-all, who is also addressed as Shiva and whose primary divinities are of Jnana Shakti (divinity of supreme knowledge), Chetan Shakti (divinity of absolute-consciousness) and Kriya Shakti (divinity of pristine activity), so once a traditional Jyotirlingam (or its area) get’s tampered (or destroyed) then humanity always ends up into following problems …

  • Intellectual degeneration … People and governments lose intellect necessary to handle problems … This sets the base for frequent changes of rules by people in authority and which only expands confusion …
  • Security and Military degradation … Military would need to be used on own citizens (citizens go berserk due to loss of above and below) …
  • Economic chaos … Economic situation of the world degenerates (due to variety of reasons) …
  • Social chaos … Social uprisings across all lands and services sectors (including the primary ones of health, safety, trust and education) enter into wide variety of chaos and this chaos is also spread across many lands of that planet …
  • Eventually, the world, its civilizations, societies and religions become like a headless giant …
  • All this only leads to above mentioned chaos … And much more ………………..
  • This chaos also ends up continuing until ………………………………………..

 

And finally …

As humanity keeps progressing scientifically, then they would discover many ancient Shivalingam’s across not only in the lands of this planet, but also on other planets of this solar system …………….. And beyond …………………………………

 

127-HH … Applicability of offset of Sri Krishna’s departure to all above …

Above calculated time of 2082.74 AD is when the divinities of incoming human golden age (i.e. Age of Sages or Guru Yuga) would begin entering this world and then  begin taking over divinities of the presently ending human age cycle of trinity (Manav Tretayuga) …

But, this is not the stage of time when this change would be begin getting visible upon the physical realms of this part of the universe … That stage of time would be as follows …

2082.74 AD “+27 + 1 years” (i.e. + offset of Sri Krishna’s departure)

Around and/or closer to above range of “27 + 1 years” after 2082.74 AD, would be when the Dhruv Tara (in astronomy, Dhruv Tara is known as Polaris) would be pointing closest to earth’s axis …

This stage would be astronomically denoting a rapid pace of progress of change of present human age cycle of trinity (Manav Tretayuga) to the incoming Age of Sages (Guru Yuga or human golden age cycle) …

This stage can be deemed as that when divinities of incoming age of sages begin expanding and taking-over the divinities of outgoing human age of trinity …

 

Continues …

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